Is Masturbation a sin? Or is masturbation a gift of God? Read my debate with Rev Dr Sir Randy Kemp on the forum. (I’m Tom or inkaboutit) http://www.voy.com/51042/3016.html http://www.voy.com/51042/3026.html
Subject: Re: The original question - not the act but the thought
Author: Tom
Date Posted: 13:44:00 08/01/02 Thu
In reply to: Rev Dr Sir Randy Kemp 's message, "The original question - not the act but the thought" on 13:44:00 08/01/02 Thu
Search for inkaboutit. Masturbation is not a sin unless you want it to be a sin for you. You can make anything you want to be a sin, if you want to.
Romans 14:14, "I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean."
Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.
Masturbation is not a sin in itself. You can masturbate all you want. God already has a build in limit. If I told you to masturbate all day every day you would discover your limit.
God designed sexuality and said it was very good. Gen 1:31 Don't let people tell you different. Masturbation is very good and very healthy and a wonderful Gift of God to enjoy. Don’t call God’s gift a curse.
Sexual lust is God designed and is not evil. Evil lust is evil. Christians are under one law only, the law of love. The whole law is fulfilled in one law the law of love. As long as masturbation does not go against the law of love then it is not a sin. Love God, love others, as you love yourself. Masturbation is loving yourself thinking of loving others.
Ga 5:14 - For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself."
Ro 13:9 - For the commandments against adultery and murder and stealing and coveting – and any other commandment – are all summed up in this one commandment: "Love your neighbor as yourself."
Ga 5:13 - For you have been called to live in freedom – not freedom to satisfy your sinful nature, but freedom to serve one another in love.
Note: this is the "sin principal" part of us. Being unloving, unkind, unforgiving, unthankful, being mean, selfish, rude, etc opposite of 1 Cor 13. God designed the human nature and said it was very good. We added the "sin principal" part.
Jas 2:12 - So whenever you (Christians) speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free.
Most every Bible verse they use against masturbation is taken totally out of context and misused. They don't know the proper context and they don't know the Bible. Most have not even read the whole Bible from beginning to end. They misunderstand lust, fornication, adultery, and the context of the Bible. They were taught wrong definitions on terms and don't take the time to study the context and instead of assuming sex is God's wonderful design and is very good, they assume sex is evil and try to force this idea into the Bible. They got their teaching from the Gnostic that said the body is evil. That is false and wrong. God made the Body and sexuality and said it was very good. Only the "sin principal" part is bad.
http://thinkaboutit.homestead.com
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Author: Rev Dr Sir Randy Kemp
Date Posted: 08:12:26 08/02/02 Fri
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Aren't you doing the same thing you complain others are doing? Taking bible verses out of context, without understanding the overall theology from which the passage is a part?
Subject: Masturbation has many benefits and don't take Bible verses out of context.
Author: inkaboutit
Date Posted: 09:44:39 08/09/02 Fri
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>>>1 He who sows to the flesh will reap corruption,
***Reply: You mis understand what flesh means here. God make our “flesh” (body) and said it was very good. John 1:1 “God became flesh”… Here the word flesh does not mean “body” but the “sin principal” part of us. More along the line of the fruits of the flesh in Galatians 5. 19 Now the works of the flesh are obvious: fornication, impurity, licentiousness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, anger, quarrels, dissensions, factions, 21 envy, F39 drunkenness, carousing, and things like these… God designed every detail of our sexuality and sexual lust and said it was very good. Sexual lust is an important part of our sexuality and part of God’s design. If you sow sexually you reap joy, pleasure, and sometime a baby or new life, not corruption. If you masturbate you also real many positive proven benefits.
Advantages of MASTURBATION By Ph.D Albert Ellis (50 Advantages) 5 pages of Sexual Advantages, Emotional Advantages, Healthful Advantages, Relational Advantages, and others. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mmadvantages50.html
Modern Sex Research Says This About MASTURBATION 23 Benefits By Manfred F. Martino a College Professor. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mmadvantages23.html
Why is MASTURBATION so Popular. Page 14 - 15 reasons. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mapopular.html
The Healing Power of Sex. Celibacy can be hazardous to your health. http://www.libchrist.com/sexed/healing.html
Masturbation is required http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mmrequired.html
Solo Ejaculations Maintain Healthy Prostate For Men http://www.proaxis.com/~solo/prost.htm
MASTURBATION has a lot Going for it http://www.proaxis.com/~solo/120798d.htm
Compares some of the characteristics of sin and of masturbation. Is MASTURBATION a sin? Or a gift from God. Compare and find your own conclusion. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/macompare.html
Is Masturbation Healthy? http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/maryhealthy.html
>>>2 Do you not know that your body is the temple of the holy spirit which is in you which you have of god and YOU ARE NOT YOUR OWN FOR YOU WERE BOUGHT WITH A PRICE,and so glorify god in your body,.question: are we glorifying god when we do this ,im sure none of us are thinking on god while doing this ,
***Reply: You misuse this verse, this verse is not about masturbation at all. Nothing to do with masturbation. You misunderstand the context and what was going on in Corinth. In Corinth the Christian men were going to pagan, Satan worshipping idol, false deity, set up as a fertility god, with the promise, if you have sex with their temple prostitute in worship to the pagan fertility god, then you were promised good farm crops. This is fornication, (using your body sexually to worship a pagan deity) not masturbation.
What is the definition of fornication? http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/fornication.html
If the pagan temple prostitute had a baby as a result, sometimes, they would give is as a human sacrifice so their pagan fertility god would bless them even more. This is not masturbation but taking part in worship to a demon fertility god, hoping that the fertility god will bless your farm crops.
>>>>>>So the answer has to be no 3 so flee from sexual lust every other sin a man does without the body but he who commits sexual sin, sins against his own body…
***Reply: You assume “youthful lust” is “sexual lust”, you make an incorrect assumption. Sexual lust is God built into to his sexual design. This is a lust that is on only for the young but for all ages. “Youthful lust” can mean many different things and may have nothing to do with sexual lust at all. Don’t force false Gnostic heresy into the Bible.
The Cause for a great deal of the sexual negativity in our culture. When did sex become bad? http://thinkaboutit.homestead.com/gnotic.html
Who, when, and How Sex Was Made A Sin?? http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/madesin.html
The false Gnostic ideal that sex was a sin or evil was forced into the Christian thinking and is kept there by taking the Bible verses out of context.
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/gnosticlie.html
2 Timothy 2:22-26
22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, F5 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
New Century Version 2 Timothy 2:22
But run away from the evil young people like to do. Try hard to live right and to have faith, love, and peace, together with those who trust in the Lord from pure hearts.
The New Revised Standard Version 2Tim. 2:22
Shun youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart.
>>>..,. Now if we sin against the body which is no longer our own then we are sinning against the holy spirit so it is sinful because we sometimes forget that we are not our own any longer we were truly bought with a price a very painful price on the cross of Christ. So that’s how I look at it and I am not proud of my sin.
1 Corinthians 6:12-20
12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any. 13 Meats F17 for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body. 14 And God hath both raised up the Lord, and will also raise up us by his own power. 15 Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. 16 What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. 17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 18 Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
****Reply: See Paul is comparing a “temple of God” with the “temple of the fertility god” worshipping of a pagan fertility god they were doing in Corinth at the time. Nothing to do with masturbation.
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If masterbating is a sin, I am going to send myself straight to hell in a minute!!
Subject: Truth vs lies vs degrees
Author: inkaboutit
Date Posted: 13:33:46 08/08/02 Thu
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In Bible College I had another professor that said, "the more degree in the church, the colder the church by degrees" I can't think of the exact words, but close.
Degrees don't count truth counts. How many degrees did Jesus have? How many degrees did King David have when he was picked by God? My degrees and your degrees are not worth that much if you know truth.
With all your degrees how many courses did you take in masturbation Theory? Which professor taught you, that if 40 Bible authors over look masturbation than you should take it upon yourself to call it a sin, when 40 Bible Authors did not? Did you learn that in College? Who taught you that?
Here from another Bible student:
Masturbation is a gift of God. Sex is a gift of God to us. Sexual lust is not evil lust; it is God designed human nature. Evil lust is hurtful and harmful to humans. Masturbation is healthy. Masturbation is good. Masturbation is God designed. Masturbation is good for you. Masturbation is for everyone to enjoy. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/index6.html
Research on Sex and masturbation and the Bible check out this web site.
Check out this web site http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/index6.html
Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/ProMinister.html
Instead of trying to stop people from mastur-bating, the church should be encouraging them to do so. Christian minister David McKay*
Masturbation is the safety valve on the sexual pressure cooker, that stops us from exploding in unacceptable or inappropriate ways. Masturbation is the universally legitimate way to satisfy your sexual appetite without indulging in something else, which may not be as legitimate. If there were more Masturbation, there would be a lot less incest, fewer rapes, less infidelity in marriage, etc. A lot more than adultery occurs when people refuse to Masturbation. Pedophilia, incest, rape, homosexuality, bestiality, all of these practices seem to be tolerated more by a church which refuses to speak the liberating truth about masturbation.
(Matt. 5:28) The mistake is that people have confused " thinking about sex" with "lust". Lust is actually wanting to do something that you know is wrong. But the sin is not in desiring sex (since that is as universal a desire as the desire for food), nor is it in fantasizing about sex. The sin is in wanting to actually perform an act to satisfy your sexual appetite that you believe is wrong, and then refraining from doing it only out of fear about what people would think or do if they found out.
Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/MarriageBed7.html
From Karla,
I'm attending a Baptist College now and in one of the classes that I am taking, happened to be taught by pastor. I like and respect him greatly. I spoke with him about how I felt and the trouble it was causing me and he told me this and I hold this as being a wonderful way to explain and lose the uncertainty that has always plagued me about this issue. He told me that we are to be concerned with the God/Man/Man issue. When we wander if something is a sin, consider this:
Are you hurting God? Are you hurting someone else? Are you hurting yourself?
And from another College Professor in College:
From: http://www.theology.edu/faq08.htm
8. Is Masturbation a Sin?
The only mention of masturbation in the Bible would possibly be Lev. 15:16-18, 32-33; 22:4 and Deut. 23:10-11. It is interesting to notice that none of these passages refer to the emission of semen as a sin. In fact, such an emission has fewer consequences than a woman's menstruation.
I would conclude, therefore, that masturbation is not a sin and is no more regulated in the Bible than relieving oneself or menstruating. This is unsurprising, since the overwhelming majority of human beings do masturbate at some point in their lives (and the rest, someone once said, are lying); if it was a sin, then, it seems to me, it would have been mentioned.
Thus, I tell people if they don't feel guilty about doing it, then it is not a problem. On the other hand, if they do feel guilty, then perhaps they shouldn't. The principles of Romans 14 come into play: on matters of individual conscience, if the conscience is not clear, then for that individual it is a sin.
And from a Christian Pastor:
Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/ProMinister.html
Instead of trying to stop people from mastur-bating, the church should be encouraging them to do so. Christian minister David McKay*
And from some other ministers:
Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/SoloWomen.html
...To some degree, attitudes about masturbation are cultural. ....
I am recalling a discussion, which I heard of between ministers from Africa and America where this issue came up. The African ministers (good solid, God-loving conservative evangelicals, all) were very surprised that the American pastors struggled with this issue. One (a very devout young man who was studying in America and wife was still in Africa) said matter-of-factly, and with a great deal of puzzlement, "Why should I be distracted by sexual thoughts all day? When the sack is full, one empties it!"
Even Dr. Dodson does not agree with you, but he may not have your degrees.
Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Dobson.html
"I don't believe a loving God would put a raging fire in an immature kid and then damn him for doing what he can't help doing "Dr James Dobson "Focus on the Family"(5)
Surveys have consistently shown that more than 95% of males engage in masturbation, particularly during adolescence. (Some say the remainders are lying!) Dr Dobson of "Focus on the Family" notes that there is absolutely no controversy on these figures from any source!
Dr James Dobson from "Focus on the Family" writes: "It is my opinion that masturbation is not much of an issue with God. It is a normal part of adolescence which involves no one else. It does not cause disease. It does not produce babies, and Jesus did not mention it in the Bible. I'm not telling you to masturbate, and I hope you won't feel the need for it. But if you do, it is my opinion that you should not struggle with guilt over it. Why do I tell you this? Because I deal with so many Christian young people who are torn apart with guilt over masturbation; they want to stop and just can't. I would like to help you avoid that agony." (5)
I'm not sure of their degrees, either, but I can truth from a lie.
Check out this site for more. Maybe some of them have degrees. But I'm looking for truth not degrees.
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/highlight2.html
Subject: Masturbation is not a sin.
Author: inkaboutit
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No I am not taking things out of context, but you are big time. You have faulty logic and need to study the context of Bible times.
And you have to ask yourself why 40 human authors of the Bible never mentioned masturbation with sexual lust that went along with it, as being a sin and you feel that you are smarter then those 40 authors and smarter then God, because God designed sexuality including sole sex and sexual lust or masturbation and gave it to us all as a gift.
God also designed sexual lust as part of that sexual system, as well as sexual fantasy as part of it. God designed human nature and said it was very good. Only the "sin principal" the offensive, hurtful, hateful, unforgiving, meanest, greet, etc part is bad.
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/one.html
You are very inconsistent on your "lust" logic. God designed sexual lust. If you remove all sexual lust you would have a major problem. Lust is a very important part of God's sexual design. But you bad mouth lust. There are many lusts some good lust and some bad lust.
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/solo.html
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Lustmt528.html
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/sos.html
If you lust to steal another man wife, then that is bad lust. But if you sexually lust after a man wife thinking only to borrow her with the husband permission that is not offensive or evil. Adultery, sex is not the issue; it is a form of betrayal and offends. In the OT masters would let there servant borrow their wives for a time and there was a lots of sex and return her later and that was not an offensive or adultery.
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultdefine.html
We are under one law, the law of love. Also the whole law is fulfilled in this that we love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
Masturbation is part of loving yourself. You are promoting hatred for masturbation and hatred of yourself. This also causes major depression.
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/macompare.html
God designed every detail of our sexuality and said it was very good. Adam masturbated before Eve came along. It IS ONLY LOGICAL. Adam was watch all the different animal having sex and they all had a sex partner and Adam was looking for his sex partner and there was none. Remember Adam's sex drive was 100% operational. The average male has 5 hard on erection every day/night. This had to include Adam. Adam did not have any holier-then-thou person around to brain wash him that massaging you penis was bad or something, so of he was massaging his penis because it felt good and he was 100% nude with a full erection. Did Adam have sexual lust? Was Adam wanting and looking for his sex partner just like all the animals were having sex all around him?
You have to get off your holier-then-thou soapbox and use some common sense sometimes. What sex rule did Adam and Eve have? If your entire sex rules are so important why did he not give them to Adam and Eve? Why did he wait hundreds of years? And after that he still did not include masturbation. But you think it is an oversight on God's part so you want to add it your self and go around putting people down because God gave them a gift of sexuality to enjoy. You want to turn a gift of God into a curse. You want to turn a great please and joy and gift of God into torment and a sin. You act as if Satan made sex and not God, just like the Gnostic of old.
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/gnosticlie.html
http://thinkaboutit.homestead.com/gnotic.html
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/madesin.html
You need to do some research to expose the lies of the past.
http://www.thefamily.org/dossier/books/book5/main.htm
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mmadvantages50.html
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mmadvantages23.html
http://www.libchrist.com/sexed/healing.html
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mmrequired.html
HOW CHRISTIANS DEVELOP THEIR BELIEFS ABOUT SEX http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_sex1.htm
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REV. DARWIN : WOW!
Date Posted: 00:15:40 08/09/02 Fri
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Just when you think you have heard it all, people like inka idiot show up woooooooow how many loop holes did you cut to come up with your interpitation? I have a question inka idiot if I came into your house and raped you and your family and then murdered you while your family watched, you are saying the LORD JESUS would then welcome me with open arms into the kingdom? After all I think it is ok to kill and destroy people and " to me it isn't a sin.Nice way of looking at your walk in life but then again the best lie the wicked one has ever thought up is there is no sin,and your ok and I'm ok just do what you want after all GOD will just look the other way , right . DARWIN .PS THANKS FOR THE LAUGH INKAIDIOT...
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Rev Dr Sir Randy Kemp
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Date Posted: 07:48:38 08/09/02 Fri
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Old Chinese Proverb:
"Never agrue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you by experience."
[> [> [> [> Subject: run out of answers, so resort to name-calling
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Inkaboutit
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Date Posted: 08:22:51 08/09/02 Fri
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First of all why don’t you stick to the subject of masturbation? Second, we are under the law of love, obvious murder and rape are 100% against the law of love. Obvious you ran out of any answers about masturbation and can only resort to name-calling.
They called Jesus a lot of name and then put him on a cross. Jesus was/is the truth, the way and the life. If you have the truth God will give you the answers to back up truth and not resort to name-calling. But if you only have lies, then I guess all you have left is name calling.
There are people out there that are greatly misled by your cultic Gnostic heresy teaching on masturbation. Because of your faulty masturbation teaching they have committed suicide, cut their hands off, and have cut their penis off, cause major depression in people, cause major life time torment and much more. Your faulty teach on masturbation, and misunderstanding of Matt 5:28-30, has hurts a lot of people.
The Cause for a great deal of the sexual negativity in our culture. http://thinkaboutit.homestead.com/gnotic.html
Who, when, and How Sex Was Made A Sin?? http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/madesin.html
The false Gnostic ideal that sex was a sin or evil was forced into the Christian thinking and is kept there by taking the Bible verses out of context. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/gnosticlie.html
The Bible College I went to, I heard this story, that one of the student that was studying to be a pastor, after read Matt. 5:28-30 took a ax and when to an island close to the College and ax off his hand and ended up bleeding to death. He had nothing in his life to merit that accept maybe, private secret masturbation and that he believed your false teaching on masturbation.
I’m not Mormon, but don’t like to see anyone learn you false teaching on masturbation and go kill himself.
Part of: http://www.proaxis.com/~solo/hustl.htm
Sin & Death in Mormon Country: A Latter-day Tragedy
By Mark A. Taylor*
On March 2, 1982, Kip Eliason, age 16, distraught and filled with self-hate over his inability to stop masturbating, committed suicide. Before asphyxiating himself, Kip left his father a note:
"Dear Dad,
"I love you more than what words can say. If it were possible, I would stay alive for only you, for I really only have you. But it isn't possible. I must first love myself, and I do not. The strange feeling of darkness and self-hate overpowers all my defenses. I must unfortunately yield to it. This turbulent feeling is only for a few to truly understand. I feel that you do not comprehend the immense feeling of serf-hatred I have. This is the only way I feel that I can relieve myself of these feelings now. Carry on with your life and be happy. I love you more than words can say.
"--Your son, Kip
Part of: http://www.raw-psych.com/bioi.html
Mental Masturbatory Abuse
[This very sincere letter was received from a reader. First he complimented the Confidential Biography website, then went on to tell his secret story. I had no idea what I was in for when I first read it.]
I am past 70 years of age and have had a life-long session with masturbation. All of it very personal, confidential and carefully hidden! Therefore, I was very emotionally gripped by your candidness and detailed explanation of your feelings in Confidential Biography. Never did I think that I would be privy to such an account, and find that I wasn't such a "bad, no-good kid" after all. I have never shared my secret with anyone - not even my wife, to whom I was married for 17 years. She died of an unexpected illness at age 38. She and I were the same age.
..."That's the end! I have warned you time after time about playing with yourself, and what it would cause! Now, it MUST be stopped, and stopped for good, before you can ever go to school. Go out to the kitchen and bring me the big butcher knife! This is the last time! I AM GOING TO CUT THAT THING OFF!! That is the only way that you will be able to quit that nasty game, so, to save your life, it will HAVE TO BE CUT OFF!"
Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Arguments2.html
(False Statement) Religion doesn't play an inhibiting role anymore; people are still practicing their faith and not having conflicts between the religion and masturbation: Research would tend to disagree with any statement that says religion is no longer negatively influencing the ability of humans to explore and enjoy, guilt-free, their sexuality (particularly sex play enjoyed in solitary). The Janus Report on American sexuality shows a direct correlation between religious preference and participation in masturbation. In answer to the survey statement, "Masturbation is a natural part of life and continues on in marriage," 63% of Protestants and 67% of Catholics either agreed or strongly agreed. However, this contrasts with 75% of Jewish respondents who agree or strongly agree and 77% of respondents with no religion. Protestants and Catholics who disagreed with the statement were twice as numerous as those who were Jewish or had no religion. Interestingly, the Janus report found that enjoyment of masturbation was much more prevalent in the West and Northeast parts of the U.S. than in the Midwest or South where church going is more popular. Survey findings in Sex in America do not cover relationships between masturbation and religion but there is one survey question, relating to masturbation and guilt (page 167), which reveals that masturbators are more often than not subject to guilt when they pleasure themselves. Guilt, as we know, is often, if not usually, associated with religious training.
Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/ProEmail.html
Positive Feedback emails from the reader of this web site. (Names and email addresses removed). Will update this web site when I receive new emails.
From: J** Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 01:58:41 EST
I find this page refreshing.
I used to be so against masturbation, I spent so many years stressing over this issue feeling so much guilt and shame. I used to be so obsessed with this issue, I prayed, fasted, did cold showers and anything else I could think of to break free. I would have victory for a while but always seemed to end up falling at some point. I actually did go 15 months in 1994-95 without masturbating, but eventually fell. The first 2 to 3 months was hell, then it got easy to go without.
I could not figure out a way to stop for life and I had been struggling with this issue for 15 years by that time. I changed my opinion about a year ago. I just started to realize that it was so stupid to obsess over this issue. I honestly feel that God does understand and that it is an acceptable form of release.
Part of: http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/SoloWomen.html
Personal Stories about What Christian Women think about Masturbation.
#1
...I am a 22 year old female that has been masturbating for quite a while now. I started when I was 12 years. I have been a born again Christian since the summer of 1992. After I became a Christian I started to feel deeply ashamed. The shame was so intense that I never told anyone about my behavior. But I continued to do it. I was afraid to tell my female Christians. Not because I didn't think I could trust them, but because I was afraid of how they would react. So I kept silent.
...A couple of days ago, I was talking with a close friend of mine. She's married and a very strong Christian. She is also not afraid to confront me when I need it. So I wanted to hear her opinion on the topic of masturbation. I asked her point blank if she thought masturbation is a sin. Much to my shock and amazement she told me that she didn't think it was. I was speechless. So I quested her about it.... I truly believe that in my situation I am not sinning when I masturbate. Here are some reasons why I say that.... ...The friend I mentioned earlier is married and she admits that she also masturbates. She has not denied her husband sexually in any way....
# 2
After reading the many posts and responses on this page I'm amazed at some of the narrow mindedness of some people.
First off, Is it better that a single person mb to relieve sexual tension or to go out and do the actual sin of having sex outside of the boundaries of marriage??
I was recently a youth/college worker within my church and I've seen youth struggle with their sexuality, as I have too as a single person.
God gave us a sex drive for a reason. He meant for us to enjoy sex to the fullest extent with the person we marry. But for some of us, we choose to pursue other areas of our life before we are ready to settle down and get married. And for others, we're just to young to get married...besides..why get married just so you can have sex, isn't that an even greater sin in itself?
...As far as I'm concerned, it is much better to mb then to go out and have sex. There is no scripture or even a hint in any passage in the Bible...where is the sin?...
People in the church spend far too much time trying to remove our God-given sexuality and making us feel guilty for things that aren't wrong.... You can argue about "our body the temple" and "defiling the marriage bed" but that does not prove that it is wrong....
...Masturbation is a way to stop us from actually defiling the marriage bed and I would much rather mb then to sin against God and my future husband by having sex outside of the marriage vows....
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J... I am a 31 year old woman and I have masturbated since I was about 6 years old. There was a time in junior high when I was masturbating 3-4 times a day.... I came from a very strong Christian home. I told my generally loving parents about this when I was 13 years old and my father told me that I was a nymphomaniac and basically made me feel disgusting. So, after when I was 16 I began experimenting sexually because I figured that my father was right and that I would have no way of controlling myself....
Well, after a few years of unhappiness, I read a book by James Dobson which had some very understanding comments about masturbation. It totally changed me and helped me to realize that masturbation wasn't the sin,...
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Author:
DARWIN
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Wait a minute what law there is no right or wrong If I say there is no law to me right to me name calling isn't a sin so there inkaidiot..Also DR. James Dobson doesn't condone masturbation. Just ask yourself this inkafool will you play with yourself walking hand in hand with CHRIST in the kingdom if you say yes then you are truly troubled and if you say no then why do it here .See in this is the problem you are of the world and your mind is set on the things of the flesh so you are at emnity with GOD walk by the SPIRIT and you will not fulfill the "LUST" of the flesh. Then again I don't know why I even bother giving you the meat of the WORD you can't understand "sound" doctrine you follow the doctrine of demons so have fun tonight giving in to the flesh see ya inkalost....
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Rev Dr Sir Randy Kemp
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Good answers, brother Darwin. A few months ago, some female on the new board was agruing for pot and Christianity at http://www.christiansforcannabis.com/
For the record, I disagree with both the person arguing for pot, just as I disagree with the person arguing for masterbation. And I wonder if the "Christian" arguing for masterbation agrees with the "Christian" arguing for pot? And didn't the Klu Klux Klan say they are "Christian" and agree it is a duty and honor to kill blacks, etc. Where do we draw the line, if everyone uses the Bible to argue for absurdities?
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